http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:13:29 -0500 120 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=4789
With the third and final update to the book now available, we've made the decision to publish the book as a fully updated eBook going forward. The Up-to-Date format with downloadable, printable updates was a worthwhile experiment but for a number of reasons we're not planning to go forward with the format at this time.

What we're doing: reaching out to everybody who purchased the print version and giving them access to the fully updated eBook. If you purchased the book on www.oreilly.com and/or registered the book on www.oreilly.com you should already have a copy in your oreilly.com account; if you haven't received it you can contact our customer service team at orders@oreilly.com.

I'm happy to answer any questions that anybody has about the book, the up-to-date program, this shift to eBook only format for this title...anything!

Thanks again for all of the interest in this title, and in O'Reilly!]]> Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:05:56 -0400 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=4789 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=1074
I like the concept of updates, thinking laterally like this is likely to keep tech books like this used instead of just going to PDF versions.

My frustrations are:
1) On the download page it didn't say - apply 1 and then 2.
2) Having to apply both updates when I got the book today is costly in terms of my time and would make me not buy this kind of book - SUPPLY ROLL-UP versions including all updates to date.
3) I don't have time to feed all the pages in and turn them over to get duplex on my cheap printer so each side of each page needs to say it is update 2, otherwise I find myself in the position I am in now!

I have been working through update 2 from the index back (it was easier as this is the way my printer stacks the paper). After subbing about 25% of the changes I realise that I need to apply uypdate 1 first. I now realise I don't have time for this right now and have stacked them on the side to do later.

I WILL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I NEED TO DO WHEN I COME BACK TO IT!

I am smiling, but frustrated :-)




]]> Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:20:26 -0500 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=1074 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=647 I'm glad to share a free tool to create Silverlight animations easily, you can make it just like in Flash. You can import SWF to accomplish your Silverlight works, go and check it if you like Silverlight.
http://www.sothink.com/product/animation-m...for-silverlight]]> Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:57:56 -0400 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=647 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=471
Maybe this is already answered somewhere, but could anybody tell me how I can determine if and what updates are already incorporated in my "version" bought today at 19 sept 2008??

Thanks..]]> Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:45:24 -0400 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=471 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=470
1) What is the paper size and/or paper size name called for the pages to print.
2) Waht should be the paper margins to print this with above paper settings.

Thanks]]> Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:45:11 -0400 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=470 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=430
I was excited to see that the book was already up to update 2, so I downloaded the PDFs and got to work. After figuring out how to get the update to print double sided in my single sided printer (some basic instructions on the uptodate site on the proper Acrobat reader print settings would have been quite helpful) I used the included paper and had my updates in hand.

After getting a few pages into it, I realized that some of the page content in the update weren't matching up with the previous content in the book.

After some hunting around, I realized that this update assumed that I had already done the update 1 changes to the book.

While I understand that for people that have following along since the beginning, and only need the incremental changes. But for new buyers of your book, having a full update to the current version should be a requirement. Ideally you would also be able to get rolled up version of changes from any update version to the current one as well. Since the author makes a point of talking about having to learn a new XML format for defining the content of the book, presumably you have an automated diffing process that should make this trivial.

Besides just the convienience of having a rollup, it is important from a conservation standpoint as well (both conserving the non-standard blank paper that came with the book, as well as general environmental friendliness). I looked carefully at both the update 1 and update 2 changes, and of the 78 pages included in update 1, 46 of them are replaced again in update 2, leaving only 32 pages that I actually need from update 1.

I'm now going through and printing just those pages out, but it has taken my hope of a quick update and turned it into a multi-hour chore.

For other people running into this, here are the pages that you need from update 1 before applying update 2:
1.1.3-1.1.6
1.4.1-1.4.2
2.1.1–2.1.2, 2.1.25–2.1.28
2.6.1-2.6.20

Again, I really like the concept, but the biggest impediment to it being successful is how much work are people going to be willing to do in order to keep their book up-to-date. If you want this to be successful, you need to make it as painless as possible.]]> Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:52:58 -0400 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=430 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=385 Is there a designated place to report errors we encounter in the book? Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:34:22 -0400 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=385 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=226
We posted the first free PDF update for Essential Silverlight 2 Up-to-Date here: http://oreilly.com/store/9780596519988-updates.csp

If you don't want to print, trim, and holepunch the update yourself, a trimmed and holepunched version is available for sale as well (only $3.99).

Looking forward to your comments!
Laurel
]]> Wed, 14 May 2008 09:40:09 -0400 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=226 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=220 Thanks, Brian]]> Sat, 10 May 2008 19:07:27 -0400 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=220 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=170
I'm accessing the book through my Safari online account and I haven't figured out how to get hold of the code downloads that are mentioned. Any help would be great.

Jez]]> Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:52:09 -0400 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=170 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=158
Thanks,

Andy Norris]]> Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:05:42 -0400 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=158 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=140
Thanks,
Russ]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:50:38 -0400 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=140 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=136 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596519988/ still shows March 2008 (est.) for publication date. Other stores (Amazon, Barnes and Nobel, etc.) show the book as out of stock. Any word on when Essential Silverlight 2 Up-To-Date will be available for purchase? I'm very looking forward to purchasing this title. Thanks much!]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:27:44 -0400 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=136 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=103
So now that you've seen the product, what other subjects should we publish in this format? Tell us what you'd like us to tackle next.]]> Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:37:58 -0400 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=103 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=84 http://uptodate.oreilly.com/ for more details about the program itself. Let me know if there's something you would like clarified.]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:07:50 -0500 http://forums.oreilly.com/index.php?showtopic=84